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Re: Evroliga sezona 2011/2012

Postby KKP » 23 Dec 2011, 10:52

AirBall wrote:Ta grupa je bila delimicno neregularna zbog Batuma... Dok je on igrao Nancy je pobedjivao, cim se vratio u NBA nastao je raspad sistema u francuskom klubu...

Ko je igrao protiv Nancy-ja na strani, dok je Batum nastupao za njih izgubio je, a Olympiacos i Fener su imali tu srecu da uzmu 2 boda kada su Francuzi bili desetkovani...

Sve u svemu life is bitch...


Što mi je ovo nešto poznato... :crybaby:
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Re: Evroliga sezona 2011/2012

Postby VMJunior » 23 Dec 2011, 14:07

Sad bas gledam kompletnu statistiku Kurte u Feneru...Poprilicno je to neubedljivo ali ko te pita kad su zavrsili prvi u grupi.
Na 3 meca nije imao indeks veci od 5 a na jos 2 meca je imao negativan indeks.
9 poena po mecu,ni 2 asistencije prosecno a isto tolko izgubljenih lopti.

Medjutim,treba napomenuti da je kada je on odigrao najbolje meceve,Fener je ostvarivao vrlo vazne pobede u Bilbau i Nansiju.

Sve u svemu,ocekivao sam mnogo vise od njega posle sezone adaptacije kod nas.
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Re: Evroliga sezona 2011/2012

Postby VMJunior » 23 Dec 2011, 15:49

Trogodisnje bodovanje za A licencu,stanje nakon prvog dela sezone Evrolige i Evrokupa:

Vlasnici A licence:

10.Efes Pilsen 66 bodova
11.Zalgiris 63 boda
12.Fenerbahce 59 bodova
13.Prokom(zavrsio ucesce) 55 bodova

Kandidati za dobijanje A licence:

1.Partizan(zavrsio ucesce) 76 bodova
2.Uniks 76 bodova
3.ALBA Berlin 67 bodova
4.Beneton 64 boda

Po sadasnjem stanju,Prokom ce izgubiti A licencu a dobice je Uniks cija je prednost nad Albom i Benetonom skoro nedostizna.
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Re: Evroliga sezona 2011/2012

Postby Niko123 » 23 Dec 2011, 15:58

VMJunior wrote:Trogodisnje bodovanje za A licencu,stanje nakon prvog dela sezone Evrolige i Evrokupa:

Vlasnici A licence:

10.Efes Pilsen 66 bodova
11.Zalgiris 63 boda
12.Fenerbahce 59 bodova
13.Prokom(zavrsio ucesce) 55 bodova

Kandidati za dobijanje A licence:

1.Partizan(zavrsio ucesce) 76 bodova
2.Uniks 76 bodova
3.ALBA Berlin 67 bodova
4.Beneton 64 boda

Po sadasnjem stanju,Prokom ce izgubiti A licencu a dobice je Uniks cija je prednost nad Albom i Benetonom skoro nedostizna.


Ovi kanditati za dobijanje A licence nista ne urade u Evropi a jedan od tih timova ce dobiti A licencu a to ce biti Uniks koji je osvojio samo EK i igra pred polupraznim tribinama,oni po "glavonjama"iz EL ispunjavju uslove...Svuda u svetu prvo se gleda ko ima najvise para a tek posle uspeh... :sick:
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Re: Evroliga sezona 2011/2012

Postby Riquelme » 23 Dec 2011, 16:58

VMJunior wrote:Sad bas gledam kompletnu statistiku Kurte u Feneru...Poprilicno je to neubedljivo ali ko te pita kad su zavrsili prvi u grupi.
Na 3 meca nije imao indeks veci od 5 a na jos 2 meca je imao negativan indeks.
9 poena po mecu,ni 2 asistencije prosecno a isto tolko izgubljenih lopti.

Medjutim,treba napomenuti da je kada je on odigrao najbolje meceve,Fener je ostvarivao vrlo vazne pobede u Bilbau i Nansiju.

Sve u svemu,ocekivao sam mnogo vise od njega posle sezone adaptacije kod nas.

Replika !! :biggrin:
Ajd kad si vec toliki ljubitelj statistike ... fer je napomenuti da ima najbolji ranking u celoj ekipi (koja je zavrshila na prvom mestu u grupi) ako se podeli minutaza provedena na terenu (posebno ako se uporedi sa svoojim direktnim konkurentom za mesto)... OD tih mnogo vaznih pobeda u kojima je bukvalno sam razbio protivnika zaboravio si i pobedu nad Olimpijakosom ... Fener ima mnooogooo spoljnih igraca koji gledaju samo kosh (koji su klasicni koshgeteri) i tu je stvarno teshko bilo nabiti neke preterane statse ... JA sam odgledao sve Fenerove utakmice i vishe sam nego zadovoljan ucinkom na istim i samom igrom ekipe kada je on udje (kao rezervni plej)! On je u ovoj ekipi (posebno posle odlaska Sefoloshe) najveci fizikalac spolja i tek kada propadnu sve akcije za Bogdanovica ili Tomasa , njemu ostaju koske koje mora da reshava 1 na 1 (shto mu je najcesce i uspevalo) ... Da je slucajno kod nas ove godine (uz svo poverenje koje je u drugo delu sezone steko kod Vlade) , tvrdim da bi pravio cuda i verovatno bio medju vodecim plejevima el...

p.s. E da i nikad ne igra gabarage time ... to je uvek prepushteno Ukicu da sa penala malo poboljsha statse ...
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Re: Evroliga sezona 2011/2012

Postby VMJunior » 23 Dec 2011, 17:14

Ja sam lepo napomenuo da sam gledao iskljucivo statistiku na sajtu a od Fenerovih meceva upravo te gde je i Dzerels bio najbolji(Bilbao i Nansi). ;)

Eto,ti kazes da si odlgledao sve meceve pa je tvoj utisak, uz neizostavne statse, prava slika o Kurti,koga ja inace postujem i mislim da je dobar igrac i ne smatram da je bio nas promasaj, kao sto mnogi misle .Nije se snasao u prvo vreme...
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Re: Evroliga sezona 2011/2012

Postby bekrinjo » 23 Dec 2011, 23:37

Sonny Weems: 'Europe is great for being able to work on your game'
We had the opportunity to interview former NBA player Sonny Weems, who is now playing pro basketball in Europe with Lithuanian powerhouse Zalgiris Kaunas


Sonny Weems has played three seasons in the NBA averaging 7.7ppg, 2.5rpg and 1.8apg in 140 games. In 2010-11 former Arkansas had his best season in NBA with Toronto Raptors jersey with whom he has played 59 games (28 in the starting five) scoring 9.2ppg and adding 2.6rpg and 1.8apg.
With Zalgiris Kaunas, Sonny Weems is playing in Euroleague, VTB League United and LKL. His numbers in Euroleague are 17.5ppg (2FG: 51.5%, 3FG: 50%, FT: 66.7%), 5.9rpg, 1apg, 1.3spg and 16.2 of index rating in 10 games. In VTB League he is recording averages of 9.9ppg, 5.7rpg, 1.7apg in 7 games while in LKL, (Lithuanian league) in 7 games, Weems is scoring 8.9ppg with 5.3rpg and 1.1apg.

How do you feel the differences between NBA and European basketball?
SW: "NBA and Euro Ball differences is that the NBA game is more about isolation and Europe is more team oriented. Games are also longer in NBA".

What is the difference in coaching style?
SW: "Coaching styles are different because the rules are somewhat different. But its not a big change"

You have signed a contract without NBA out with Zalgiris. How do you feel now that the NBA season is starting. Are you regretting your choice, also seeing your former teammate Ty Lawson who returned back to the States to play in the NBA? Or you still think your decision to spend the entire year in Europe is the right thing for you and your career?
SW: "I'm not disappointed at all. Of course I have my moments when I miss home but I am enjoying the experience. I had some goals that I set, and I am achieving them so far, so I'm good"

Last summer how many teams in Europe were interested in you, and why Zalgiris Kaunas? Maybe the great basketball tradition of the club?
SW: "I had about 3 teams interested but I chose Zalgiris because i thought it would be a good fit. I wanted to go to a team that had a good tradition, and also a team that wouldn't be too stacked that I could have a major impact".

What are your plans for the next season, considering that now that you are adapted to European basketball? You might look for a spot in a top european team as CSKA, Barcelona, Panathinaikos.
SW: "After this season, I will be going back to the NBA unless I get an offer in Europe that I can't refuse".

Is it better to be a go-to-guy player in an Euroleague club or a role player in the NBA with limited minutes?
SW: "Go to player in Europe is cool, and a role player in NBA is too. When I go back to NBA I hope that my experience in Europe will help prepare me to be a full time starter and closer. I wanna be on the floor at the end of games. When I came overseas I wanted to work on my 3pt shot, half court game, and my decision making. I have gotten better in all those areas. Europe is great for being able to work on your game".

You are used to play just in NBA, now with Zalgiris you play in three different leagues, VTB, LKL and Euroleague, at the same time: any game there is a different level of basketball you have to play, is it hard to adapt?
SW: "Playing in 3 leagues is different in each league. it is not really hard to adapt but my role is different in each league. A lots of games which is good".

Zalgiris Kaunas after a difficult start in EL reached Top 16 and is expected to have a strong group. what are the goals of the team this season?
SW: "I am excited we made the top 16, and I want to win in that too. We started off slow but finished well. We had a coaching change, Ty Lawson left and so we had to adjust".

What are your goals for this season?
SW: "My goals are to win and win big. And get better in those areas of my game that i mentioned".

What are the differences between living in Europe and in the States? Are you learning something new?
SW: "I've learned how to be a computer genius because it's super cold in Kaunas and it gets dark at 4pm (LOL). So I am in the house on the computer".

How different is the pressure on the players between NBA and Europe? Zalgiris has hot fans and Lithuania is the European basketball country.
SW: "I don't really feel no pressure. I block that out and just hoop. Pressure is when you can't take care of your family. That's real pressure. Basketball is fun pressure".

How do you find fans in Europe? It is better for a player to play in an NBA arena or in a European, hot Arena, with fans chanting and supporting all game long?
SW: "I love the fans in Europe. Kaunas fans are the best, then from what I've seen I say Pananthinakios, Bamberg, CSKA. But thats just what I've seen so far from our group".

Let's talk a bit about NBA. What is your prediction about NBA: winners, MVP, Top Scorer, rookie of the year?
SW: "Man, I don't know who is going to win in NBA this year. It should be an exciting season tho".

As Italians, we should ask you something about your ex teammate in Toronto, Andrea Bargnani. Do you think he can be an All-Star soon and a clutch player?
SW: "Andrea, that's my guy. He can be as good as he wants to be, very talented. He can be a clutch player. He already is. Few more pieces around him and he will be even better".

Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you.

Sonny.
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Re: Evroliga sezona 2011/2012

Postby mali_buda » 24 Dec 2011, 00:41


Ljulj - sisica...
Ja ćutim, ti ćutiš, on ćuti, mi ćutimo, vi ćutite, oni kradu...
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Re: Evroliga sezona 2011/2012

Postby nolinjo » 24 Dec 2011, 00:48

mali_buda wrote:
Ljulj - sisica...

:+1: reyes govno
Jedaj moj brat
"Because in the end, everything we do, is just everything we've done. "
"Hmm, no, I don't have a gambling problem. I'm winning and winning is not a problem. That's like saying Michael Jordan has a basketball problem..."
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Re: Evroliga sezona 2011/2012

Postby KKP » 24 Dec 2011, 00:52

Rejes je govedo, bio i ostao, ali ih je nastagao Saša Grobar, prvo njega, pa Ljulja... :laugh:
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Re: Evroliga sezona 2011/2012

Postby CRNO BELI SVET » 24 Dec 2011, 08:19

Jesu i jedan i drugi ljigavi, ali šta onda reći za Sašu, naročito što mu ovo nije prvi put? Na jedan malo jači "badi ček" Rejesa je odreagovao laktom u bubreg, a na Ljuljov češanje ramenom toliko ga je očigledno davio, da je ovome posle pet minuta i dalje ostao izražen trag na vratu.

U svakom slučaju, od izrazito prijateljskog i skoro rekreativnog meča bez odbrana, utakmica se nakon toga pretvorila u rat, gde je Efes izginuo, a ja i jedno deset ljudi koje sam taj dan ubedio da vijaju over na 156.5 smo iz gluposti bez veze prsli kintu... :mad2:
San koji sanjaš sam je samo san. San koji sanjamo zajedno je stvarnost.
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Re: Evroliga sezona 2011/2012

Postby Bane » 24 Dec 2011, 09:46

Ljulj je slina klasicna, najljigaviji i najiritantniji kosarkas u Evropi.
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Re: Evroliga sezona 2011/2012

Postby CrniGuja » 24 Dec 2011, 12:34

Pa sad, jaka mu je konkurencija, pocev od Spanaca, pa do mog ljubimca Batista.
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Re: Evroliga sezona 2011/2012

Postby Zlaja » 24 Dec 2011, 12:43

Ima i jedan izraelac...
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Re: Evroliga sezona 2011/2012

Postby Bane » 24 Dec 2011, 12:44

zlaja86ns wrote:Ima i jedan izraelac...

2...taj i Blu sa nadrkanim stavom kao da je Kobi licno.
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