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Re: Teniska statistika i rekordi

Postby Dejan » 12 Feb 2012, 18:42

Zbirna statistika sa GS iz 2011. za "Veliku četvorku"

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Re: Teniska statistika i rekordi

Postby anantaram » 13 Feb 2012, 08:45

Zaboravljeni mec sa nekoliko notornih rekorda kojima se niko od protagonista danas ne ponosi :jebiga:
Iz nytimes-a

Spoiler: pokaži
The Day They Belabored the Point
By DAVE SEMINARA
Published: September 23, 2009

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Vicki Nelson Dunbar played Martina Navratilova at Wimbledon in 1987.

As the 642nd shot of the rally floated high above her head, Vicki Nelson decided it was time to go for a winner.

“I thought I was going to go crazy,” Nelson told reporters after the match. “No matter what I did with the ball, she kept getting it back.”

She added: “It took me a long time to get up the nerve to come in, but she finally hit a short lob and I put it away — forever.”

Twenty-five years ago, on Sept. 24, 1984, Nelson and Jean Hepner, who were ranked No. 93 and No. 172 in the world, engaged in a 29-minute, 643-shot rally that remains the longest point played in a professional tennis match.

For comparison, during a match last month, Andy Murray and Julien Benneteau had a rally that lasted 53 shots, and it was the longest either of them could remember playing in competition.

The rally between Nelson and Hepner occurred in the first round of the $50,000 Virginia Slims-sponsored Ginny tournament at the Raintree Swim and Racquet Club in Richmond, Va., with Nelson finally prevailing, 6-4, 7-6 (11).

The 6-hour-31-minute marathon was itself the longest match in tennis history for nearly 20 years and remains the longest match completed on a single day. (In the 2004 French Open, Fabrice Santoro defeated Arnaud Clément in 6:33. That match, however, was suspended by darkness in the fifth set, so the final 1:55 was played the next day.)

Both Nelson and Hepner seem vaguely embarrassed that their names are in the record books. :beyond:

“Even now, just thinking about it, my stomach is starting to hurt,” Hepner said. “I had a lot going on in my personal life at that time and I was trying to turn my career around and it was getting tougher to do. But I didn’t stay out there for six hours to get attention; I just wanted to win that match badly.”

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Jean Hepner at the Virginia Slims of Indianapolis tournament in 1985.

Hepner, who was then 25, retired from the sport soon after and now lives in Redwood City, Calif. She is a teacher, property manager and competitive chess player, but only rarely plays tennis and no longer has any connections to the professional tennis world.

Nelson, who goes by Nelson-Dunbar after marrying, lives in Medina, Ohio, and remains involved in the sport. Her husband, Keith Dunbar, was a professional tennis coach and their 13-year-old son, Jacob, was the top-ranked player in the country in the 12-and-under division last year. Their son Ethan, 17, wants to play Division I tennis in college next year, and their 10-year-old daughter, Emily, has just begun playing.

The rally that put Nelson-Dunbar and Hepner in the record books came at set point for Hepner, who was ahead, 11-10, in the second-set tie breaker, which lasted 1:47 on its own.

“There was tons of lobbing,” Nelson-Dunbar said. “I would try to come in and she’d lob me again.”

After winning the point, Nelson-Dunbar collapsed with cramps in her legs. The chair umpire, who apparently maintained consciousness throughout the 643-stroke point, actually called a time-violation warning, but Nelson-Dunbar pulled it together and got back to the baseline to begin the next point.

How does a point go on for 29 minutes before one player or the other hits a winner or makes a mistake?

“We were both pretty much standing on the baseline lobbing,” Nelson-Dunbar said.

Hepner recalled, “I was just really concentrating and was very consistent.”

Two points later, Nelson-Dunbar closed out the match and apologized to the lines officials for its length. :lollol:

“I felt so bad for them,” she said. “They were sitting out there so long, and they must have been falling asleep.”

Hepner said she had no idea the match had dragged on for more than six hours. “There’s time distortion when you are in the alpha state — like a hypnotic state,” she said. “I had no idea that six and a half hours had passed.”

John Packett, who covered the match for The Richmond Times-Dispatch, had the foresight to keep track of the strokes, explaining, “I started counting because the rallies were going so long, you had to figure, Who knows how long these points are going to last?”

Packett, who covered tennis and other sports for The Times-Dispatch for nearly 40 years, recalled the match as dull, yet strangely compelling.

“I’m not sure why I even watched it,” he said. “I’m glad I did, since it turned out to be a historic match, but it wasn’t one of the highlights of my journalistic career.”

Hugh Waters, a former tennis coach and the owner of the Raintree club, remembered: “I had a lot of people coming up to me at the tournament saying the match was ridiculous, but I always jumped on them. It takes guts to do what they did.

“People don’t understand the mental aspect of the game: this was a battle of wills and real tennis fans like me could appreciate it.”

Nelson-Dunbar turned 22 minutes after the match ended, but she went to bed without celebrating because she had to play again that afternoon.

Before calling it a night, she called Keith Dunbar, who was then her boyfriend.

“She told me it was the worst day of her life,” he recalled. “I asked her if she lost, and she said no, she won, but she had just gotten off the court. I told her to imagine how Jean felt.”

In her next match, Nelson-Dunbar was ushered out of the tournament by Michaela Washington, 5-7, 7-5, 6-0. “I was really bad — I could barely move that day,” Nelson-Dunbar remembered.

She earned $775 in prize money for the week, and Hepner, who stayed with a local family during the tournament to reduce travel costs, took home $475 for her efforts, or about $73 an hour on court.

Among the astonishing elements to the match was this: If Hepner had won the epic rally, she would have forced a third set, and who knows how long the match might have lasted. :confused:
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Re: Teniska statistika i rekordi

Postby alcesta » 13 Feb 2012, 18:03

Čula sam za taj meč, ali jednostavno ne mogu sebi da predstavim kako jedan POEN može da traje pola sata. To je izvan mojih mogućnosti poimanja. :krsti:
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Re: Teniska statistika i rekordi

Postby Liv » 13 Feb 2012, 18:56

Samo TB je trajao sat i 47 minuta :lollol: bas bih volela da vidim na sta je to licilo :)
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Re: Teniska statistika i rekordi

Postby anantaram » 17 Feb 2012, 05:52

Nole sa Korijom deli rekord u procentu osvojenih return gemova u toku sezone, 39%. Doduse, medju "sampionima" u toj disciplini su prethodnih godina bili i likovi poput Volandrija i Kucere, tako da ovo nije konacan dokaz njegove velicine, ali svakako ide u prilog. ricoh
U 2012. mu za sad stoji na 48%. :)

Najvise procente u toku karijere imaju Korija(35%) i Nadal(33%), u cemu dosta doprinosi veliki broj meceva na sljaci.
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Re: Teniska statistika i rekordi

Postby Dejan » 23 Feb 2012, 15:40

Federer je neporažen na indoor turnirima od novembra 2010, u Roterdamu je osvojio svou 20. indoor titulu.

Evo top 10 po procentu pobeda na indoor turnirima od 1968

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1. John McEnroe        Win-loss: 419-72 (85.3%)       Titles: 51
2. Ivan Lendl             Win-loss: 344-71 (82.9%)       Titles: 41
3. Jimmy Connors      Win-loss: 460-103 (81.7%)      Titles: 52
4. Bjorn Borg             Win-loss: 215-51 (80.8%)       Titles: 23
5. Roger Federer       Win-loss: 217-52 (80.7%)        Titles: 20
6. Boris Becker          Win-loss: 297-75 (79.8%)       Titles: 30
7.   Arthur Ashe           Win-loss: 265-70 (79.1%)       Titles: 21
8. Andy Murray          Win-loss: 89-25 (78.1%)         Titles: 9
9.   Pete Sampras        Win-loss: 213-61 (77.7%)       Titles: 23
10. Rod Laver             Win-loss 136-41 (76.8%)       Titles: 14
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Re: Teniska statistika i rekordi

Postby anantaram » 23 Feb 2012, 17:57

Karijerni 5-set rekord
Nagradna igra, pronadjite Federera :lollol:

A ovo su prvih 10 (procenat, pa onda W-L).
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1.    Johan Kriek        .818     18-4
2.    Ross Case        .813     13-3
3.    Bjorn Borg        .800     24-6
4.    Rafael Nadal        .789     15-4
5.    Harold Solomon     .762     16-5
6.    Aaron Krickstein    .757     28-9
7.    Novak Djokovic    .750     15-5
8.    Bob Carmichael    .733     11-4
9.    Thierry Champion    .733     11-4
10.    Chris Lewis (NZL)    .722     13-5
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Re: Teniska statistika i rekordi

Postby Gama » 23 Feb 2012, 18:21

Nadjoh Bobu (174.mesto) sa 8-10. Ni Pilic nije bolji 7-8.
Ha, nasla sam Feda na 114. mestu sa 18-16. Vau :huh: , pola poraza sigurno otpada na meceve sa Rafom i Noletom :nisamja: .
Ostali porazi, ne znam. Ali ono sto zasugurno znamo, nisu protiv Rodika :biggrin:.

Mislila sam da je Rafa malo tih 5-setnih meceva odigrao, kad ono samo mec manje od Noleta.
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Re: Teniska statistika i rekordi

Postby Dejan » 23 Feb 2012, 18:29

Ovo je takođe zanimljivo, odlučujići set :

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Re: Teniska statistika i rekordi

Postby anantaram » 23 Feb 2012, 19:31

Ove pobede u odlucujem setu ne moraju puno da znace. Imas gomilu meceva na Mastersima i manjim turnirima kada vodeci igrac dobije prvi set, onda se opusti i izgubi drugi, i na kraju pobedi u trecem.

Ali, good to know.
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Re: Teniska statistika i rekordi

Postby alcesta » 24 Feb 2012, 17:34

Safin je neočekivano visoko uzevši u obzir njegovu reputaciju :biggrin:
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Re: Teniska statistika i rekordi

Postby Milutinov Tata » 02 Apr 2012, 22:09

Novak zapoceo 40. nedelju kao broj 1 i izjednacio se na vecitoj listi sa Nastaseom. Sledeci cilj Guga Kuerten koji je broj 1 bio 43 nedelje.
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Re: Teniska statistika i rekordi

Postby anantaram » 23 Apr 2012, 08:15

Najvise titula na jednom turniru


    Guillermo Vilas @ Buenos Aires (8): 1973,1974,1975,1976,1977,1977(2),1979,1982
    Rafael Nadal @ Monte Carlo (8): 2005,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2011,2012
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Re: Teniska statistika i rekordi

Postby Milutinov Tata » 23 Apr 2012, 19:43

Broj titula na turnirima Masters serije:
1. Rafael Nadal 20
2. Roger Federer 19
3. Andre Agassi 17
4. Pete Sampras 11
Novak Djokovic 11
6. Thomas Muster 8
Andy Murray 8
8. Michael Chang 7
9. Boris Becker 5
Jim Courier 5
Marcelo Rios 5
Gustavo Kuerten 5
Marat Safin 5
Andy Roddick 5


Broj finala na turnirima Masters serije
1. Roger Federer 31
2. Rafael Nadal 30
3. Andre Agassi 22
4. Pete Sampras 19
Novak Djokovic 19
6. Boris Becker 11
7. Thomas Muster 10
Gustavo Kuerten 10
Andy Murray 10
10. Stefan Edberg 9
Michael Chang 9
Andy Roddick 9
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Re: Teniska statistika i rekordi

Postby alcesta » 24 Apr 2012, 16:40

Rafin učinak je stvarno impresivan :okk:
Ali ja sam tek sad skontala da je Mari igrao 10 masters finala i izgubio samo dva :huh:
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