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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Delester » 16 Jan 2012, 21:34

Liv wrote:Rafa je postao kao neka baba. Kukanje o povredama, kukanje o sezoni. Volela bih da vidim onog starog koji manje prica vise dela.
Komentari o Fedu su me razocarali prosto jer kao sto on ima pravo da kaze sta misli o duzini sezone, tako i ovaj ima pravo da misli sta hoce i (ne)izjasni se. Zasto bi Fedov problem bio to sto drugi ne mogu da izdrze tempo? A nesto ne vidim ni da su ostali sa tura uzeli Rafu za advokata.


komentari mislim da su na mestu jer je fed predsednik saveta igraca i kao takav treba da zastupa njihove interese jer su ga oni i birali
to cutanje kao jajara mi je uvek islo na nerve

ja tek sada vidim da je ovde bilo price o nadalovom kolenu, sad sam tek pristupila racunaru, sa moba kad sam nemam bas toliku lepezu delovanja :biggrin:
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Delester » 16 Jan 2012, 21:37

btw, i treba tako sada igracima jer su oni birali, neka ga sad lepo smene, pa nek mu daju opet sledece godine krunu za fer plej, sjaj na noktu i zavrsni glanc na kosi
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Starsica » 16 Jan 2012, 21:49

Naravno da hoce. K'o da je Fed Big Mama jbt.
Novi pristup učenju engleskog jezika, bez učenja gramatike i dosadnih časova, učenje jezika kroz konverzaciju. Potrebno je minimalno znanje jezika, sve ostalo prepustite meni :D
Stars drži časove engleskog, poruka u inboks za dogovor. Cimanje stop :D
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Gama » 16 Jan 2012, 22:16

U savetu su Fed, Rafa i verovatno jos neko, kao predstavnici igraca. Ljuba je cini mi se napustio kao i Nole.
Problem nastaje kad oni medjusobno ne mogu da se usaglase sta je najbolje za igrace. Te razlike su verovatno pocele da se javljaju i pre USO a pre neki dan je bas izgleda puklo Rafi jer ne moze da progura svoje ideje, sto mi ovde i ne znamo koliko su cije zamisli dobre.
Igraci neka naprave anketu i stave sta je najbitnije za njih pa da to Fed i Rafa proguraju na odboru. Mogu igraci verovatno da ih i smene ali ako Feda i Rafu ne slusaju glavesine koga ce pa tek onda. Ustvari, slusali bi ih oni da su Rafa i Fed jedinstveni. Tu je problem. Ovako, sta ih briga.
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Delester » 16 Jan 2012, 22:19

koliko sam ja shvatila, stav vecine igraca je ono o cemu su pricali djokovic od ranije i rafa sada, fed nece da se zauzme za to, a on je predsednik tog saveta
pa ne ide to bas tako, preko njega treba da se cuje glas igraca, a ne da se zataskava zarad lazne dobre slike tenisa, sto bi on hteo (a zapravo bi nesto drugo), kao u losem braku, da deca ne saznaju
pa neko treba da mu objasni da on nije predsednik atp-a da odbija i prihvata predloge, vec samo nesto malo vise od glasnika na polozaju
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Gama » 16 Jan 2012, 22:32

Slazem se. Zivo me zanima Noletov stav, ali on mudro cuti :biggrin:.
Mada i treba. Bunio se on bogami dosta i to kao pripravnik, kad su ga gledali kao padobranca koji samo talasa bez potrebe.
Ali, kako mi se cini, morace i on da se oglasi. Videcemo na sta ce ovo da izadje. Neki misle da je napad na Feda Rafina taktika pred eventualno polufinale. Imao covek od koga da uci :teacher: :biggrin:
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Delester » 16 Jan 2012, 22:34

nole je svojevremeno bas pricao o tome pa su mnogi govorili da bolje da se lati reketa no sto laprda
mozda fed nece da cuje istu recenicu u lice jer bi to znacilo da je za penziju :laugh:
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Gama » 16 Jan 2012, 22:38

Delester wrote:nole je svojevremeno bas pricao o tome pa su mnogi govorili da bolje da se lati reketa no sto laprda
mozda fed nece da cuje istu recenicu u lice jer bi to znacilo da je za penziju :laugh:

Mora da je to :laugh:
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby NadjaM » 16 Jan 2012, 22:41

Ma Fed je diplomata,ide samo na sigurno
nece se taj istrcavati nizasta,ako nema licnog interesa
bori se iskljucivo za svoja prava
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Liv » 16 Jan 2012, 22:47

Propustila sam taj momenat kad je Fed izabran za glavonju. Poslednje sto znam je da se Novak iskljucio iz te price. Meni je sporno koja je to 'vecina' o kojoj se prica, jer sem Rafe i jos par igraca niko se ne cuje. A na turu ih je stotine. A fakat je da nikom sem prvoj trojci recimo ne bi odgovaralo skracenje. Jedini nacin da svi budu srecni i zadovoljni je da se smanji broj obaveznih turnira. A s druge strane, videli smo da ako se pazljivo planira moze itekako da se odigra dobra sezona.
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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby Gama » 17 Jan 2012, 00:29

Federer: "No hard feelings" towards Nadal

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MELBOURNE, Australia (AP)—A day after a rare show of discord, Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal quickly closed ranks.

Nadal had criticized Federer for his unwillingness to speak out on issues affecting the men’s game, allowing others to “burn themselves” as they seek improved conditions for players.

After joining Nadal in the second round of the Australian Open with a win on Monday, Federer said “things are fine” between the two longtime rivals, although he concedes that they disagree on a way to resolve a list of player grievances that includes the length of the season and the distribution of prize money.

“We can’t always agree on everything,” Federer said. “So far it’s always been no problem really. Back in the day he (Nadal) used to say, ‘Whatever Roger decides, I’m fine with.’

“Today he’s much more grown up. He has a strong opinion himself, which I think is great.”

For his part, Nadal apologized for airing his disagreement with Federer in public—although he didn’t back down on the views he expressed.

“Probably I am wrong telling that to (the media), especially because these things can stay, must stay in the locker room,” Nadal said.

“I always had fantastic relationship with Roger. I still have fantastic relationship with Roger. Just I said we can have different views about how the tour needs to work. That’s all.”

The rift emerged following a player meeting on Saturday that sparked talk of a possible strike for the second time in six months.

Nadal wasn’t alone in questioning Federer’s stance. Former No. 3-ranked Nikolay Davydenko said Monday he didn’t understand why the 16-time Grand Slam champion wasn’t supporting his fellow players.

The Russian said that while Nadal and No. 1-ranked Novak Djokovic had been leading the push for changes, Federer had been reluctant to get involved.

“I don’t know why Roger is not supporting the players,” Davydenko said. “Because he don’t want … any problems. He’s nice guy. He’s winning Grand Slams. He’s from Switzerland. He’s perfect.

“He don’t want to do anything, he just try to be an outsider from this one.”

However, Federer said his reluctance to speak out shouldn’t be construed as a lack of support.

“I was in the meeting. I completely understand and support the players’ opinions,” Federer said. “I just have a different way of going at it. I’m not discussing it with you guys in the press room. It creates unfortunately sometimes negative stories.”

The players plan to meet again at the Indian Wells Masters tournament in March when they will assess how much progress has been made before deciding on a course of action.

Davydenko said a strike remained a remote prospect, but that “the ATP should try to do something between now and Indian Wells.” Federer wants to avoid such drastic action if possible.

(Strike) is such a dangerous word to use,” Federer said. “It’s not good for anyone really. We’ve seen it in other sports happening in the States. That’s why I’m always very careful about it.

[b]“If there’s no avoiding it, I’ll support the rest of the players. But I just think we have to think it through how we do it, if we do it, can we do it, whatever it is, instead of just going out and screaming about it.”
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Federer said there are “two or three” big issues that the players have been discussing. They include the length of the season and prize money at Grand Slam tournaments, which some players believe has not increased proportionately with growing profits.

American John Isner said he had been to the meeting and felt the players had a “legitimate beef” over prize money, which is also an issue at the Indian Wells tournament, where Davydenko said those players who lose in the first round can sometimes lose money after paying tax and travel costs to compete.

Federer said he was confident “a good solution” would be reached and he welcomed the healthy debate. Nadal, meanwhile, vowed that he wouldn’t be speaking about it in public again.

“I do not talk anymore,” he said. “Yesterday (Sunday), I started, and I say I don’t want to talk anymore about this. Finally I talked too much as usual. That’s not going to happen again. You can try hard, but I’m going to talk about tennis.”
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Delester » 17 Jan 2012, 00:37

Liv wrote:Propustila sam taj momenat kad je Fed izabran za glavonju. Poslednje sto znam je da se Novak iskljucio iz te price. Meni je sporno koja je to 'vecina' o kojoj se prica, jer sem Rafe i jos par igraca niko se ne cuje. A na turu ih je stotine. A fakat je da nikom sem prvoj trojci recimo ne bi odgovaralo skracenje. Jedini nacin da svi budu srecni i zadovoljni je da se smanji broj obaveznih turnira. A s druge strane, videli smo da ako se pazljivo planira moze itekako da se odigra dobra sezona.
pa u principu ne moze da se cuje kada ostali komuniciraju preko saveta koji broji sitno

nije tu samo skracenje u pitanju, u pitanju su svi tekuci problemi tura danas, pocev od kalendara, finansija, pa do igle
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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby Milutinov Tata » 17 Jan 2012, 01:14

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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby Liv » 17 Jan 2012, 14:51

“We can’t always agree on everything,” Federer said. “So far it’s always been no problem really. Back in the day he (Nadal) used to say, ‘Whatever Roger decides, I’m fine with.’

Kakav je on lik :lol:
Inace, stav da ne zvace po medijima o tome mi je korektan.
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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby alcesta » 17 Jan 2012, 17:18

Rafa je sigurno jako srećan što mu Rodžer daje povtdu da je porastao :laugh:

Btw, jedan od naslova u novinama:

WITH A STRAPPED KNEE, NADAL OVERCOMES HOTEL INJURY
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denoting this and that by this and that,
your world immutable wherein no part
the little maker has with Maker's art.
I bow not yet before the Iron Crown,
nor cast my own small golden sceptre down.
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