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Postby Caretta Caretta » 11 Nov 2011, 08:04

Talks between the NBA and NBPA broke down on Thursday night after the league offered a revised proposal that includes slight changes to several system restrictions that have held up the negotiations. Derek Fisher and Billy Hunter made it clear that the latest offer didn’t include all of the changes that the union wanted, but they’ll still review the proposal with their executive committee and team representatives on Monday.

“It’s not the greatest proposal in the world, but I have an obligation to at least present it to our membership and that’s what we’re going to do,” Hunter said. “It’s been a long haul. We’re coming near the end of it. We’re trying to get this thing done.”

If the NBPA accepts the offer, which includes a 50-50 split of basketball-related income, the season will start on December 15 and include 72 games. David Stern made it clear that if the union rejects the offer, they will hit the reset button and their next proposal will include a 53-47 split in favor of the owners and a flex cap among other restrictive elements.

“There comes a time when you have to be through negotiating, and we are,” Stern said. “This is the best attempt by the labor relations committee and therefore the NBA to address the concerns that the players expressed coming out of their meeting of the player representatives.”

While the NBA insists this is their best offer, there’s some debate over how much the new proposal differs from last week’s offer. Hunter told reporters last week that the union was looking for more than just tweaks to the system restrictions. This proposal doesn’t include as many changes as the NBPA would have liked to see, with the restrictions only being “slightly” modified.

“It does not meet us entirely on the system issues that we felt were extremely important to try and close this thing out, and so at this point we’ve decided to end things for now, take a step back,” Fisher said. “We’ll go back as an executive committee, as a board, and confer with our player reps and additional players over the next few days. Then we’ll make decisions about what our next steps will be at that point.”

However, Stern believes it’s impossible to ratify an agreement that will make everyone happy. Both sides have hardliners that have been difficult to please throughout this process.

“We don’t expect them to like every aspect of our revised proposal,” Stern said. “I would say that there are many teams don’t like every aspect of our revised proposal.”

The NBA and NBPA have passed the responsibility of agreeing to a deal back and forth over the last week, with both sides strategically putting the decision to save the season in the opposition’s hands.

The owners’ ultimatum was the first attempt to put the decision on the NBPA’s shoulders. However, the union countered by ignoring Stern’s ‘Wednesday at 5 p.m.’ deadline, choosing instead to return to the bargaining table. Now, with this revised proposal, Stern has passed the hot potato back to the players, and he made sure to close his press conference saying, “We await the union’s response.”

One reason for optimism is that the two sides have started to discuss the 30 to 40 secondary issues that must be still resolved such as the age limit, commissioner discipline and drug policy. Those issues hadn’t been discussed in the past because the two sides were so far apart that a deal wasn’t in sight. The fact that they’re working out all of the minor details has to be a good sign.

Then again, there have been so many false alarms and unexpected twists throughout this process that it’s impossible to tell what lies ahead. The only thing we know for certain is that on Monday, the NBPA will decide what their next step is and determine where the talks go from here.
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby Napredpartizan » 11 Nov 2011, 10:30

Sada je sve u rukama igraca... Ja se toga najvise plasim,posto vlada nesloga u Uniji koja cini 450 igraca... Oni ce sada glasati u ponedeljak ili utorak da li prihvatiti ovaj novi predlog...
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby jedibojan » 11 Nov 2011, 11:54

dogodine u Istambulu
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby Niko123 » 11 Nov 2011, 14:38

Kakva nekultura :sick:
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby Withnail » 11 Nov 2011, 14:51

Sva sreca pa se pojavio Durantula pa Lebron nikad nece moci da ponese titulu najboljeg igraca danasnjice. Izuzetno odvratan igrac. A za razliku od svih koji su bili top igraci sveta on ima ubedljivo najmanji talenat, sve se svodi na fizikalije, savrseno telo i sto je tehnicke elemente doveo do maksimuma radom.
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby Jovan » 11 Nov 2011, 14:53

Sto mislis da Lebron nije talentovan? Meni se cini bas suprotno, da on zbog toga sto ne radi dovoljno nikad nece iskoristi sav talenat i fizicke predispozicije koje ima. A mislim da je veoma talentovan i da odlicno kapira igru.
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Postby Withnail » 11 Nov 2011, 15:13

Meni on sve sto radi izgleda drveno i istrenirano, mehanicki...nema mekocu kao MJ, Kobi, Durant i ostali malo manje top igraci
Mislim on je zver, vrhunski igrac, atleta najbolja, koji je u stanju da trpa kos sa vise pozicija, odbranu da odigra kako hoce, da ga ima u svakom parametru statistike al jbga, meni kako on sve to radi ne deluje na taj visoko talentovani nivo kakav imaju gore navedeni igraci.
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Postby Houdini » 11 Nov 2011, 15:21

Ja laznog kralja ne mogu da podnesem jos od onog incidenta kad je bacao trenerku po parketu. Ali daleko od toga da on nema talenat, jer zna on sasvim lepo da asistira, a to sa samom fizikom nije moguce. Mislim da on ima veliki kompleks MJ i sto do sada nije osvojio nijednu titulu, negde mozda i zbog toga ne moze da izdrzi pritisak i nestaje kada se lomi.

Inace juce sam se gledajuci Keca setio i ovog. sto bi ameri rekli euro step-a
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby Napredpartizan » 11 Nov 2011, 16:30

-A source on the players' side source tells ESPN.com the revised offer will likely be rejected
- League barely moved on most of the important system issues
-Players, agents may begin union decertification Friday
-There will be a 72-game season starting on December 15 if the deal is accepted ...
-Players frustrated with union leadership?
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby вређај » 11 Nov 2011, 17:16

Napredpartizan wrote:-A source on the players' side source tells ESPN.com the revised offer will likely be rejected
- League barely moved on most of the important system issues
-Players, agents may begin union decertification Friday
-There will be a 72-game season starting on December 15 if the deal is accepted ...
-Players frustrated with union leadership?


као што сам рекао,по овој понуди је јасно да унија губи,играчи губе. питање је само дал су они спремни да иду до краја,а то на суду не одговара ни једнима ни другима. најреалнији сценарио је онај као и прошле недеље,састану се играчу,искажу јединство у својим редовима,иако више ни то није извесно,одбију понуду и фишер каже како ће поново звати стерна да опет седну за сто у нади да ће власници појачати поново понуду у корист играча. али,питање је да ли овај пут стерн жели и да ли уопште може то да побољша,реално испао би смешан да два пута продужује сопствени ултиматум. не видим да ће ово да се заврши скоро.
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby Sasa_Beli » 11 Nov 2011, 17:41

Lebron je indijanac , pustio bih Raska na njega da mu malo pokaze kako se bije :D
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Postby nolinjo » 11 Nov 2011, 18:25

Houdini wrote:Ja laznog kralja ne mogu da podnesem jos od onog incidenta kad je bacao trenerku po parketu. Ali daleko od toga da on nema talenat, jer zna on sasvim lepo da asistira, a to sa samom fizikom nije moguce. Mislim da on ima veliki kompleks MJ i sto do sada nije osvojio nijednu titulu, negde mozda i zbog toga ne moze da izdrzi pritisak i nestaje kada se lomi.

Inace juce sam se gledajuci Keca setio i ovog. sto bi ameri rekli euro step-a

jebote ja ne mogu se setim tog poteza ...dajte link da vidim duleta :crybaby:
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby AirBall » 11 Nov 2011, 23:06

Citam sad da su uslovi koje nudi vlasnici klubova sve losiji...
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby 1n54jd3r » 12 Nov 2011, 09:05

neka istraju...Jordane, uz tebe smo
Inat koji je pretrpeo sve faze razvoja i došao do terminalnog stadijuma - negiranje i sopstvene inicijative.
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby chika-zuba » 13 Nov 2011, 08:29

Durant kod Stefana Markovića?

NBA zvezda bi mogla da se preseli u Evropu ukoliko se lok-aut ne završi uskoro

objavljeno danas u 07:58; autor: Aco Lazarević

Kevin Durant nije siguran da li će prisustvovati sastanku Unije NBA igrača u ponedaljak u Njujorku. Na tom sastanku će igrači razmatrati poslednju ponudu koju su dobili od vlasnika timova.
"Znam da ponuda nije dobra za nas", konstatovao je Durant i dodao: "To nije ono što smo mi želeli. To nije dobar sporazum i ne vidim zašto bismo trebali da ga prihvatimo, posebno ovako kasno."

Ukoliko pregovori propadnu i ovoga puta, Durant bi sledeće nedelje mogao da potpiše ugovor sa nekom od evropskih ekipa. On vaga ponude Makabija iz Tel Aviva, španske Valensije i nemačkog Bajrojta. Ukoliko potpiše ugovor on će sadržati klauzulu po kojoj bi mogao da se vrati u NBA istog trenutka kada se lok-aut okonča.

Krilni igrač Oklahome je rekao da će dopustiti da izvršni direktor Bili Hanter i predsednik Unije igrača Derik Fišer odluče o tome kako igrači treba da glasaju, ali bi on glasao protiv ponude vlasnika NBA ekipa.

Durant smatra da su šanse za postizanje dogovora "50-50".

"Ja imam optimizam, ali su svi oko mene nervozni. Voleo bih da izađemo na teren i igramo, ali to nije tako jednostavno", rekao je.

Nijedna NBA zvezda se nije pojavljivala u medijima tokom trajanja lok-aut više od Durantule. Razlog tome je činjenica da je on odigrao najviše egzibicionih utakmica.

"Svi moji letovi i hotelske sobe za mene i moju braću su plaćeni, na meni je samo da izađem i igram. Plaćen sam da igram, ali bez obzira na to ja to volim. Uživanje je izaći pred navijače", završio je.
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