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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby Gama » 15 Oct 2011, 22:43

The following teams will be playing at the Hopman Cup 2012:

Czech Republic – Petra Kvitova (4) & Tomas Berdych (7)
USA – Bethanie Mattek-Sands (54) & Mardy Fish (9)
Australia – Jarmila Gajdosova (30) & Lleyton Hewitt (194)
China – Li Na (7) & Wu Di (423)
France – Marion Bartoli (11) & Richard Gasquet (17)
Spain – Anabel Medina Garrigues (28) & Fernando Verdasco (24)
Denmark – Caroline Wozniacki (1) & Frederik Nielsen (198)
Bulgaria – Tsvetana Pironkova (49) & Grigor Dimitrov (72)
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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby Dejan » 17 Oct 2011, 10:18

Tignor o Mareju:

Coming Back for More

You might not love Andy Murray’s attitude or his mouth. You might not love his forehand or his slump-shouldered walk. You might not love his sometimes-passive style of play or the way he gets crabby at 30-all in the first game. You might think he kvetches a little too much about all of the oversize checks he gets to take home. You might be skeptical that Murray, who, after his win in Shanghai today has eight Masters titles and zero majors, can get it done when the pressure is undeniably on.

You’d have a reason to think all of these things; with his skills, the lack of a Slam title will always be what’s mentioned first about Murray, rather than anything that he has won. But after his latest fall surge, which followed yet another bitter Slam defeat, at the U.S. Open, you’d also have to admit that the guy keeps giving us a reason to watch him, write about him, enjoy what he can do on a tennis court, and, yes, believing in him. Murray is less renowned than Rafael Nadal or David Ferrer for his persistence and ability to bounce back, but his career is proving to be, among other things, one of great resilience.

Murray, as you probably know by now, just completed an Asian-swing hat trick, winning in consecutive weeks in Bangkok, Tokyo, and at the biggest tournament of the three, the Shanghai Rolex Masters. He didn’t do it smoothly, like Roger Federer. He didn’t do it with rousing passion, like Rafael Nadal. He didn’t do it with athletic precision, like Novak Djokovic. He didn’t even change his much-maligned attitude or playing style a whole lot. This was a purely Murray-esque win, with anxious misses, ill-advised tantrums, and rectangular-lipped roars intact. And that might be the best thing about it.

“I was really happy with the way I focused,” Murray said after beating David Ferrer in a half-ragged but mostly convincing 7-5, 6-4 final. “It’s hard to explain. It’s almost as if you’d think the more matches you win, the less pressure you feel. I was hitting the ball well, but there’s still a little bit of tension because you want to try and keep the run going. . . . I wasn’t necessarily playing my best tennis the whole way throughout, but I served well when I needed to and I chased the ball down.”

In other words, Murray made the best of what he had. He won even after he gave back breaks of serve at the start of both sets. He beat a fellow grinder while only coming to the net 10 times. When he could, Murray went hard to Ferrer’s forehand and opened up the point from there, but when he got behind in rallies, he still made Ferrer finish the point. The Spaniard often couldn’t do it.

Murray has beaten Ferrer four straight times on hard courts, and it’s a good matchup for him. He can defend like Ferrer, but he has a little more versatility on offense. Still, Murray could never break free today. He let Ferrer off the hook at 3-1 and 4-2 in the second set, and he needed two aces to save himself at 4-3. In the end, he relied on a possibly weary and slightly off form Ferrer to help him along.

“This week I think overall it’s satisfying,” Murray said. “I didn’t necessarily feel like I played amazing tennis, I just did the right things, made it very difficult for my opponents, and won a tournament of this size when I still felt like I could have played a little bit better.”

No one knows his own game like Murray, and he described it to a T when he said he “made it very difficult for his opponents.” Now that the hat trick is complete, we move on to the next question: What did it mean? Did it mean, for example, more than his win in Shanghai last year? Did Murray show anything more than what he’s always shown, an ability to make life difficult for his opponents? I think there are two positives to take away.

First, his serve and his forehand. The serve will come and go, but it’s getting him out of more holes than it once did. As for the forehand, he went after it the way many of us have wanted him to go after it against Nadal in Tokyo, and he was rewarded for it in the end. Murray never matched that level of aggressiveness in Shanghai, but he was still committed to trying to dictate with his forehand.

Second, his mental approach. Murray said he felt, paradoxically, more pressure as the wins built up, and he showed it in the quarters, the semis, and the final with his hair-trigger temper. This time, though, he fought off his own negativity with shows of positive emotion. More important, belying his perfectionist’s style, he put the screw-ups behind him and won anyway.

Maybe this is all just another false alarm and Murray will come crashing back to earth when he faces Djokovic, Nadal, or Federer in the later rounds at the World Tour Finals and the Australian Open. Maybe we’ll keep hearing those guys reassure the world, after they’ve beaten him, that Andy will win the big one someday, don’t worry, he’s too good not to. Even if that does happen again, it’s time to give Murray his due as a fighter in his own right, and a player who brings a unique personality and approach to the sport. Murray doesn’t win with Federer’s smoothness or Djokovic’s precise athleticism, but no one else leans into a backhand quite like he does or hits a perfect running forehand crosscourt pass every single time.

Murray has taken a ton of tough losses over the years, and he’s deserved the criticism he’s received for them. He’s also internalized it—after his semifinal loss at the U.S. Open, he said that if you only count the majors, he’s had a “terrible” career. That’s obviously nonsense—how many players in the history of the game have reached the semis at all four majors in one season, as Murray did in 2011?

What’s frustrating for me is the sense that Murray still hasn’t shown us all he can do. I can’t remember the exact match, but early in Shanghai he was, very briefly, completely at his ease on court. For a few minutes, it seemed that he could do anything with the ball, and he wasn’t hiding his cockiness about it. He curled his shots this way and that, cut under the ball with more slice than needed, carved volleys at unnecessary angles, came in on nothing and made it work because of his anticipation, and generally played circles around his opponent. It was like watching Dolgopolov, except that it all made sense. It was really more like watching Federer in “full flight.” Murray can do it all, and his full flight could soar as high as Federer’s. But it’s unlikely he’ll ever be relaxed enough to get up there for very long. In the meantime, if the forehand keeps getting punchier, and he can keep putting the bad moments behind him, he may not need to get all the way up there to win a major.

But before we start Slamming Murray again, it’s worth noting that he hasn’t let all of those tough losses crush his ornery, methodical spirit. (And it’s not like they don’t affect him deeply. We’ve seen him go into emotional tailspins after his last two Aussie Open losses before eventually digging himself out.) Murray claims he’s had a terrible career at the majors, but that only covers eight weeks of the year. Those of us who love the sport watch it the other 40-some weeks as well. And those of who love the sport, for its subtle shot-making and emotional violence, should be glad that Andy Murray is still coming back for more of both.
...riječi su isto kao i gomile ljudi, nije nužno znati za sve, odaberi za sebe samo one prave...
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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby Gama » 17 Oct 2011, 13:48

B92
Prvi reket Švedske na svom profilu na društvenoj mreži Facebook istakao je da još uvek pati od mononukleoze, zbog koje bi mogao da propusti i Masters u Parizu na kojem brani titulu.

„Izuzetno sam razočaran i tužan što neću moći da igram na turniru u Stokholmu koji mi mnogo znači, a na kojem još nisam osvojio titulu“, rekao je Soderling.

Šesti teniser sveta je objasnio da pokušava da se vrati trenizima, ali bezuspešno.

„Pokušavam da se vratim, ali telo jednostavno ne može da odgovori na zahteve treninga. Posle toga se osećam još gore“, naglasio je Soderling.

Ovo postaje sve ozbiljnije kod Soda.
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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby alcesta » 17 Oct 2011, 14:43

Šta je to s teniserima i mononukleozom? :tap: Stvarno šteta, ali nema teorije da takav može da brani titulu, najbolje neka se oporavi za iduću sezonu. Čudno mi kad vidim Ferera ispred njega na listi, mada s druge strane nije mi jasno otkud je i dalje tako visoko s obzirom da ga od onog naleta početkom sezone nema praktično nigde, sem turnira u Baštadu.

Murray claims he’s had a terrible career at the majors, but that only covers eight weeks of the year. Those of us who love the sport watch it the other 40-some weeks as well. And those of who love the sport, for its subtle shot-making and emotional violence, should be glad that Andy Murray is still coming back for more of both.
Odlično rečeno. Jesu slemovi najveća takmičenja, ali mediji stvarno idu u krajnosti. Pomislio bi čovek da je osvojiti masters prosto ko pasulj. :roll:
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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby Gama » 18 Oct 2011, 23:45

Cudan raspored ima Venus, 3.dec. Milano a 10.dec. Barbados :teacher:
Promoter says Venus will play in December
The tournament director at the Dec. 10-11 Barbados exhibition called “Tennis Pon de Rock” says that he has been assured that Venus Williams will be fit to play there. Venus had to withdraw before her second-round match at this year’s U.S. Open after being diagnosed with Sjögren’s syndrome. "I have spoken to Venus herself, I have spoken to her manager and I have had discussions with her doctors to get her full prescription for her specific autoimmune disease. In a short answer, yes, she will be fit," Kodi Lewis told the Barbados Advocate. "She is back on the court as we speak and she is very much looking forward to coming as well."

Caroline Wozniacki, Victoria Azarenka, Gael Monfils and John Isner have also been confirmed for the event, which will be played at the Sugar Hill Tennis Resort.

Venus and Serena Williams are also scheduled to play an exhibition in Milan on Dec. 3 against Italy's Francesca Schiavone and Flavia Pennetta.


Today's players are too similar
Kimiko Date-Krumm, who is still playing singles on the WTA at age 41, says that today’s players have styles that are too uniform.

"Martina Navratilova had the serve and volley and the touch for net play but now when you look at the young players, their styles are all the same. It's only power, big serve, and then bam, bam, bam - no tactics," :laugh: Date-Krumm told World Tennis Magazine. "Before it was mainly defensive styles. Martina (Navratilova) had her leftie serve and volley game; Steffi Graf had a superb backhand slice and big forehand; Gabriela Sabatini had more spin; Arantxa Sanchez did also, she ran very fast and was mentally tough. Martina Hingis had a lot of talent, she's not a big player, not a lot of muscle and her tennis was all about touch. For Asian players today, she's a good model. She didn't have the power but she was very smart. Back then most players had a good serve but they were still very different. Now they are all almost identical."

Date-Krumm, who reached a career high ranking of No. 4 in 1995, says that if 22-time Grand Slam champion Graf made a comeback, she could be No. 1 again. Graf is 42 years old.

"Yes I think so," said No. 113-ranked Date, who plans on playing another one to two years. "And why? Well because tennis is not only power and not only age. Yes, of course this generation of players need power. But to win Grand Slam titles you need mental toughness and experience. In matches there are many turning points and she still knows how to win, how to play these big moments."
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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby Dejan » 19 Oct 2011, 18:19

...riječi su isto kao i gomile ljudi, nije nužno znati za sve, odaberi za sebe samo one prave...
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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby Altair » 19 Oct 2011, 19:59

evo malo i javno o ovome, a ne samo po forumima
http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.ht ... -iza-ledja
MEĐUNARODNA teniska Federacija (ITF) i određeni proizvođači sportske opreme optuženi su da su gurali klipove u šampionski pogon Novaka Đokovića u protekle četiri godine, jer su, navodno, nameštali žreb na grend slemovima i favorizovali da u finalu igraju Rafael Nadal i Rodžer Federer!

Predvodnik talasa onih koji smatraju da se na turnirima velike četvorke dešava nešto čudno, uključujući Australijan open, Vimbldon i Ju-Es open i Rolan Garos, je Katarina Pijetlović, profesor sportskog prava na univerzitetu u Talinu, koja je na nedavno održanom Antikorupcijskom simpozijumu u Kelnu podigla veliku prašinu, iznevši ozbiljne sumnje u regularnost ovih takmičenja.
Naime, ona je objavila podatak da su Novak i Rodžer od 2008. 12 puta na grend slemovima uvek bili u istom delu žreba, bez obzira na to da li su bili rangirani kao drugi i treći, ili kao prvi i treći na ATP listi, za šta je šansa da se desi - neverovatnih 0,02 odsto.

- To vam je kao da bacite novčić 12 puta i svaki put padne na onu stranu sa brojem. Žreb se pravi tako što se prvi na svetu stavi u vrh jednog dela „kostura“, a drugi na dno drugog. Treći se, potom, ubacuje u jedno od ta dva, kao i četvrti. U svim slučajevima, uvek se Đoković poklapao sa Federerom, a Marej sa Nadalom. To je rađeno, jer je vladao stav da Švajcarac lakše izlazi na kraj sa Srbinom, a Španac sa Škotom. Samim tim, verujem da su ovi žrebovi bili podložni manipulaciji i da je Novak bio u manje dobrom položaju u odnosu na druge, a sve zbog sticanja profita u svetu biznisa - oštro tvrdi Pijetlovićeva.
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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby alcesta » 19 Oct 2011, 20:54

To se odavno priča, ali ne vidim kako može da se dokaže. Samo se nadam da će iduće sezone biti malo češće Endi u Novakovoj polovini. Ne mislim da mu je lakši protivnik od Feda, posebno iz perspektive skorašnjih rezultata, ali ovi žrebovi su strašno dosadni već. Hoću malo i Fedal polufinala za promenu.
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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby Delester » 19 Oct 2011, 22:29

ponosni smo sto mozemo da objavimo da nam vise nije bitno :laugh:

u potpisu
kasno marko na kosovo stize
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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby Starsica » 19 Oct 2011, 23:21

Sve i da je bilo receno ranije, ne verujem da bi moglo da bude pusteno u etar. Velika imena su umesana da bi to tek tako, onda, bilo moguce objaviti bez posledica, a danas je to manje bitna kategorija jer Novak cepa sve kao kamiondzija kaludjerice. Iako ja i dalje ne volim da vidim Feda u Novakovoj polovini, a mnogo bih volela da vidim kako prangija i njega u finalu.
Novi pristup učenju engleskog jezika, bez učenja gramatike i dosadnih časova, učenje jezika kroz konverzaciju. Potrebno je minimalno znanje jezika, sve ostalo prepustite meni :D
Stars drži časove engleskog, poruka u inboks za dogovor. Cimanje stop :D
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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby cecans » 20 Oct 2011, 09:34

Delester wrote:ponosni smo sto mozemo da objavimo da nam vise nije bitno :laugh:

u potpisu
kasno marko na kosovo stize

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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby Altair » 20 Oct 2011, 09:45

Nije sad vise bitno iz perspektive noletove, jer je postao dovoljno dobar pa je svejedno ko ga ceka u SF.
ali je mnogo bitno sto se takve stvari rade i radice se u buducnosti sa nekim novim fedom i rafom i tako ostetiti nekog novog noleta ili vise njih. to je korupcija na najvisem nivou al smo svi oguglali pa kao nema veze
da ne pricam o varijanti, sbbkbb, tj sta bi Novak mozda osvojio da je zrebanje bilo fer
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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby Delester » 20 Oct 2011, 11:54

ma jasno
meni je smesno sto je bas sad to nekom palo na pamet, moglo se znatno ranije pozabaviti tom nadasve "suptilnom" problematikom Image
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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby georgina » 20 Oct 2011, 13:19

da. sad više nije bitno, ali taman kad fed postane manji zalogaj od makice, padaće rafi u polovinu .
sto kažu, ne može šut sa rogatim nikako. nole će kroz čitavu karijeru osećati odakle je. nema tu popravke.
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Re: Vesti i aktuelnosti sa tour-a

Postby Sony » 20 Oct 2011, 15:17

Kasno Marko na Kosovo stize.

Mada je sad svejedno. Nole je otresao i jednog i drugog po nekoliko puta ( Nadala 6 a Fedju 4) u 2011...tako da neka namjestaju...kompleksi i bol posle turnira su sve veci.

Ali..bravo za gospodju Tatjanu i nadam se da se ( iako je sada nebitno) detaljno istraziti sve to. Neko je morao prosto da primjeti...toliko je to bilo ucestalo.

Ako bi se naknadno utvrdilo da je bilo namjestanja ( a ja mislim da jeste)...fino kazniti ITF.
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