Izvan i iza turnira

[Dejan]

Time for a return to five sets?

We are into the fifth year of the revamped Masters 1000 series and the latest final in Miami between Novak Djokovic and Andy Murray underlined why these showpieces really should be a best of five set affair as they were before 2008.
Etiene de Villiers, former Executive Chairman of the ATP Tour, pushed to have the Masters finals reduced due to player tiredness.
That appears a hollow excuse and has taken credibility away from the events.
If de Villiers really wanted to make a difference, he should have pushed harder to get the tennis season reduced to 10 months which would allow players to get a proper break but the ATP took the easy way out.
A few of the finals such as Miami, Indian Wells, Shanghai, Paris and the end of year ATP Tour finals could be restored to best of five sets to bring back some prestige to these events.
In the past, Super Nine and Masters finals were great preparation for up and coming players before winning Major titles.
Players of the calibre of Andre Agassi, Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer, Marat Safin, Thomas Muster all won best of five set Super Nine / Masters finals before claiming a Grand Slam title.
Novak Djokovic was the last player to win a best-of-five Masters event in 2007.
But Masters finals now no longer provide good preparation for Major success because they are like any other best-of-three set ATP tournament.
Vastly experienced players of the calibre of Andy Murray and Jo Wilfred Tsonga have never won a five set final in their entire career.
Traditionally Super Nine / Masters finals allowed players to find out more about themselves by trying different strategies and tactics at the level just below the Slams.
Some of the best matches ever played were at the Super Nine/Masters level in the finals.
However, over the past four years, there has not been many finals that can be considered memorable — over 40 finals in a four-year period.
Finals are usually quick straight sets affairs which are over in just over an hour to 90 minutes.
The interesting thing is that these short finals have coincided with yet another explosion of prize money, especially since 2008.
Spectators who attend the finals and television viewers who pay subscriptions to see these matches are getting short changed.
At the very least, the ATP should reconsider restoring the World Tour final to five sets.
Last year's final between Roger Federer and Tsonga was very good but it could have been a classic had it gone to five sets.
Previous ATP finals have finished way too quickly especially in 2008 and 2009 and a best of five set final would have been a fitting way to end the event.
A look back at of some of the great Super Nine / Masters finals:
1996 Stuttgart final — Becker defeated Sampras in five sets of great attacking tennis.
1996 ATP Tour final — Sampras defeated Becker in five sets. Widely regarded as the greatest indoor match of the Open era.
1995 Monte Carlo final — Muster denied Becker in five sets, Becker would never win a clay event.
1998 ATP Tour final — An all Spanish affair in Hanover with Alex Corretja defeating Carlos Moya in five sets.
2000 Miami final — Sampras defeated Kuerten in 210 minutes in an atmosphere reminiscent to a Davis Cup tie.
2002 Masters Cup final — Hewitt defeated Ferrero in five sets in Shanghai.
2005 Miami final — Federer came from two sets down to beat Nadal.
2005 Rome final — Nadal defeated Guillermo Coria in five sets.
2005 Masters Cup final — Nalbandian came from two sets down to beat Federer in four hours.
2006 Rome final — Federer lost to Nadal in a five hour battle — this was the beginning of the end for five-set finals at Masters level.

[alcesta]

the latest final in Miami between Novak Djokovic and Andy Murray underlined why these showpieces really should be a best of five set affair as they were before 2008.

Još da mi je znati kako se to videlo baš iz ovog finala. Od same pomisli da smo mogli da gledamo još minimum jedan a možda i više setova ovog mučenja muka me spopada.

[M.S.]

Baš je idiotski da je taj meč reper. Možda zato što je NOvak izgledao tradicionalno pečen na vrućini, pa se činilo da je mogao da "opruži papke" do petog seta.

Btw, mislim da bi best of 5 svakako promenio strukturu pobednika na mastersima i ne bi bilo dominacije jednog ili dvojice tenisera u najboljoj formi.

[alcesta]

Mislim da bi najlakše bilo vratiti taj format u finale završnog turnira, deluje nekako najprikladnije a i posle ide odmor.

[Dejan]

Nešto nisam siguran da bi finale na tri dobijena seta mnogo promenilo strukturu pobednika, kada se uzmu poslednje tri godine od 27 samo u tri finala nije bilo nekoga iz današnjih top 4.

A few of the finals such as Miami, Indian Wells, Shanghai, Paris and the end of year ATP Tour finals could be restored to best of five sets to bring back some prestige to these events.

Sa ovim se slažem, bilo bi više dobrih mečeva sasvim sigurno.Za Masterse na šljaci nisam siguran, pogotovo što se Madrid i Rim igraju maltene bez pauze izmedju.

[Gama]

Autor je ocito zaboravio ono finale iz Madrida '09, a vidi cuda igralo se na 2 dobijena seta. Ocito je problem u akterima finala a ne u formatu masters finala .
Ako cemo tako da gledamo, kao doticni autor, onda bi iz onog finala RG (Rafa-Fed) izvukli zakljucak da finale GS ipak treba da se igra u formatu best of 7

[Milutinov Tata]

Finale WTF vratiti u tri dobijena, ostalo ostaviti kako jeste. To je po meni jedino logicno.

[Gama]

Photos: Charleston 2012 Players Party

[Delester]

Finale WTF vratiti u tri dobijena, ostalo ostaviti kako jeste. To je po meni jedino logicno.

u, pa tu bi onda bilo krvi do kolena (doslovno, i predaja), mnogo je to za taj turnir jer nema slabog protivnika, tu bi bilo najvise iznenadjenja, a ferer bi bio veciti pobednik
EDIT
ao jbt koji sam retard, tek sad vidim da si mislio na finale samo, sta da radim kad je i samo ime turnira world tour finals

[Opojni zumbul]

Očigledna je ostrašćenost aktera finala Mastersa a ne broj dobijenih setova.
Što se mene tiče ja sam za da se na tri dobijena igraju Indijan Vels, Majami, Madrid, Šangaj i Masters Kup. To su Mastesi sa najvećim nagradnim fodinom, jednakim pa čak i manjim kao što teniserke imaju za Premier Mandatoray. Aga je dobila više od Noleta kao pobednica Majamija. A onda teniserkama smanjiti premije jer nije fer da su isto plaćene za jednu pobedu od manje od sata sa pobednom od pet setova i preko pet sati.

[Starsica]

Ne vidim sta fali ovoj podeli. Kad bi se sva finala mastersa igrala u best of 5 formatu, oni teniseri koji doguraju do finala bi na sledecem turniru bili kao presahle mule. Tu govorim o mastersima izmedju kojih nema pauze. Danasnji tenis nije servis volej iggra, nego mnogo zahtevniji sport, ne asmo fizicki nego i psihicki i plasim se da bi sa tim formatom igranja u finalima doslo do prezasicenja organizma kod onih koji doguraju do zavrsnica. A iskreno, ako npr. u finale Madrida doguraju Djokovic i Nadal, tamo se kolju opet 6 sati i pruze neverovatne partije, i zatim kao pobednici odu u Rim i tamo ispadnu odmah zato sto su crkli od tenisera koji ce to znati da iskoriste. Po meni bar nema smisla jer tenis odavno nije sport u kojem moze da preovlada igra od dva ili tri udarca kao ranije.

[Gama]

Mashine fotke za Tag Heuer. Super izgleda!




Nema zime za Mashu - jos jedan sponzor.

Maria Sharapova signed a three-year sponsorship deal with Samsung Electronics Co..

The agreement, which started on April 1, covers Russia and the Commonwealth of Independent States. The tennis beauty will promote Samsung´s products including mobile phones, tablet computers and television sets.

“Maria really hasn’t been marketed that much in Russia,” Max Eisenbud, her agent at IMG Worldwide, said. “It’s important to her because that’s where her roots are. I also felt that was a really untapped market, with the 2014 Sochi Olympics coming up.”

[Opojni zumbul]

To je zato što je tanis danas više gladijatorski a sve manje aristokratski sport. Mečevi, naročito između dvojice najboljih traju odavde do večnosti a to koliko zna biti aktraktivno toliko može i da šteti samim akterima a i publici. Videli smo u Melburnu da nisu mogli da stoje. A i ne vidim problem za Madrid jer bi već u Rimu bili slobodni u prvom kolu pa ne bi ništa gubili.

[Starsica]

Madrid i Rim su navedeni kao primer bas iz razloga sto se igraju jedan za drugim, maltene bi imali samo tri dana odmora.

[georgina]

ma da, treba baš da se kolju recimo u majamiju u onim neljudskim uslovima 5 sati.
ove godine su mnogi kukali kako je bio nekvalitetan tenis u finalu. pa šta očekuju od tenisera na +35 i 90% vlažnosti. da lete kao leptirići. e pa ne mož' da bidne.
i sad još takvo mrcvarenje treba prolongirati na best of 5 ... svašta. uostalom, dok god su podloge ovako spore, dva, eventualno tri seta sa nekim normalnim skorom su puna kapa i za publiku, bilo onu uz tv ili onu na tribinama.